The Wild Woman of East 77th Street

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"Susan" has frightened many residents of East 77th Street over the past six months; she spits, screams and coughs on residents that she comes in contact with.

By Amanda Woods

Nikki Henkin stood in front of her apartment on East 77th Street, between Lexington and Third avenues, holding up a flip camera to capture a video of Susan (not her real name), a neighborhood homeless woman who screams wildly, coughs repeatedly and deliberately spits on passersby. Pedestrians in Susan’s path clear sidewalks, subway platforms and cars to avoid her.

Henkin hoped she would be able to show her footage to the police as proof of Susan’s disturbing behavior. But once Susan spotted Henkin, she grew outraged.

“She started to scream at me, ‘It’s against the law to take my picture. You can’t do that. I’m going to call the police,’” Henkin said.
Henkin went inside her apartment’s lobby. Minutes later, Susan darted in and threw a plastic cup filled with a clear liquid at Henkin. “I don’t know what the liquid was—water, bleach, acid,” Henkin said. “Luckily, I’m OK and she left.”

Residents say Susan has made the Upper East Side her stomping ground for about six months and has been a nuisance and a hazard ever since.

“She will burst out screaming and you can hear her 10 floors up,” Henkin said. “She coughs violently, which made me think she has a communicable disease, and then she purposely, intentionally spits on people, spits on children in strollers and spits on people walking dogs.”

One resident who wished to remain anonymous said she and a friend visiting from France had to walk in the street to avoid the spitting woman.

“All that came on to my radar screen is that she had a strange look in her eyes, and at that moment, this woman started hissing and spitting and making almost animal noises,” the resident said. “It was horrifying and scary—like having a rabid animal in your presence.”

Pedro Ramos, a window washer on East 77th Street, said Susan once spit on passengers on the 6 train, prompting a commuter to call the police at the 86th Street station. Eliott Rebollo, an apartment superintendent in the neighborhood, said that six people who live in his building have told him they felt threatened by Susan. And Jimmy Gouvakis, owner of Soup Burg, located on Lexington Avenue between 76th and 77th streets, said Susan once traipsed through his restaurant, causing a scene and disturbing diners.

Susan, a thin, middle-aged woman with dark hair, clad in sweat pants, a brown T-shirt and a black woolen cap, travels with a younger man who may be her son or her nephew, but he usually remains quiet, residents say. Together, the two haul three or four suitcases and bags, which they carry down into the 77th Street subway station to travel elsewhere—but they always return to the Upper East Side.
Henkin and other locals want Susan off the streets, or at least treated for her cough, which some believe may be a sign of tuberculosis or whooping cough, and her supposed mental illness.

But Susan is only an example of a larger issue in New York City. The number of homeless living in New York City shelters has grown to 43,000, according to Patrick Markee, senior policy specialist at the Coalition for the Homeless. Three-quarters of the shelter population are families, of whom only a small number are mentally ill. But out of the 10,000 single adults who live in the city’s shelters, one-third to one-fourth are mentally ill, Markee said.

The number of street homeless in New York City, those who don’t go to shelters, totals 3,262, according to a Department of Homeless Services spokeswoman—and two-thirds of them are mentally ill, according to Markee. Last week’s report of a deranged homeless man stabbing and attempting to rob a young woman on Second Avenue near 86th Street has intensified local concerns about the homeless and mentally ill and whether they could be dangerous.

Although Susan has not committed a violent crime, some Upper East Siders fear that her behavior could escalate, and they’re hoping the police will take action before then. After the liquid-throwing incident, Henkin wanted to press charges but police told her that because the incident was only a violation and officers weren’t present when it happened, no charges could be lodged.

Police are monitoring Susan, according to Nick Viest, president of the 19th Precinct’s Community Council. The NYPD’s policy for this and similar issues is to send the precinct’s Conditions Unit, which handles quality-of-life and minor street concerns, to the area.

“What they do is they monitor it—they send police over to observe,” Viest said. “This one in particular is on the radar screen. They can’t make an arrest if they don’t observe the person doing something illegal. They try to stay on top of it and watch it.”

Viest explained that for police to act, the woman’s behavior would have to be more severe. “If she assaults someone or attacks someone, that’s a crime and police can act on it,” Viest said. “It’s simply that she appears menacing and she’s disturbing to a lot of people, so it seems like that’s the difficulty here.”

Spencer Korwin, an Upper East Sider, doesn’t believe police have reason to act just yet. “I don’t know if anything she does is illegal,” Korwin said. “She’s not doing anything wrong, just causing a disturbance.”

A source familiar with mental health issues said that if the police believe Susan is a danger, they can bring her to a hospital to be checked in. The hospital can keep her for 72 hours, but if the staff doesn’t find her dangerous, they can allow her to leave.

The problem is that there is no easy or immediate way to address Susan’s problems, according to Mary Lee Gupta, a social worker and the program director for the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill of New York City Metro. The criteria for psychiatric institution admission are stringent, and as Gupta sees it, Susan doesn’t fit the bill.

”If a person is not a danger to themself or others, you can’t have the police come and take her to a psychiatric hospital,” Gupta said. “She wouldn’t be admitted. Clearly, she has symptoms, but unfortunately, the bar is high for admission.”

If Susan threatened to hurt someone, carried a weapon or had a plan to commit suicide, she could be admitted, but her case isn’t nearly that severe, Gupta added.

“There are literally several thousand people on the streets of New York, and it’s simply not possible to scoop people up and mandate treatment,” said Ira Mandelker, executive director of the Neighborhood Coalition for Shelter, located on the Upper East Side.

Susan could voluntarily enter a hospital if she “has a mental illness for which care and treatment in a mental hospital is appropriate,” according to New York State Mental Hygiene Law, outlined by the State Office of Mental Health. But questions often arise about when a person should be considered dangerous enough to his or herself and others to be involuntarily entered into a mental health facility, making it difficult to find a safe and fair balance between protecting the rights of the mentally ill to refuse treatment and the rights of the people who feel threatened by them.

A Department of Homeless Services spokeswoman noted that a client can only be taken to a mental health facility involuntarily if he or she reaches “the highest threshold of danger.” In this case, Section 9.58 of the Mental Hygiene Law, which states that people who appear to have a mental illness and present a danger to themselves or others can be involuntary taken to a psychiatric emergency room to meet with medical doctors, licensed psychologists, registered nurses or certified social workers, would be enacted.

Of the 85,820 people in the five boroughs who are mental hospital patients, only 2 percent were homeless before admission, according to the Patient Characteristics Survey, a one-week survey conducted by the Office of Mental Health of all mental health programs statewide. In Manhattan, where 19,190 people are enrolled in mental hospitals, 5 percent were homeless.

Coupled with the hurdles to entering a state mental institution, the movement in state hospitals toward deinstitutionalization that began in the 1960s makes mental hospitals an even more unlikely place for the mentally ill homeless, according to a psychiatrist who lives on the Upper East Side and worked in the state mental health system for many years.

“It became a mania with state people to discharge patients wildly to reduce censuses because it was economical for state budgets,” the psychiatrist said.

The chances of Susan entering a homeless shelter are also unlikely. Homeless outreach teams can confer with her and ask if she would be willing to go into a shelter for evaluation, but if she is not willing, it can’t happen, Gupta said.

Kristen Edwards, director of the Manhattan Outreach Consortium at the Goddard Riverside Community Center, said the center’s outreach teams have gone out to see Susan, but she would not elaborate on specifics.

The Homeless Services spokeswoman said Susan appears to be part of the street homeless population rather than a shelter client. Homeless Services cannot force clients to enter a shelter, the spokeswoman said, but they can encourage them to seek help at a Safe Haven program, which is geared toward street clients and has semiprivate rooms and more relaxed curfews. She said an outreach team had met with Susan and considered her “civil and engaged with them.” They thought she didn’t pose an immediate danger.

But Mandelker said this behavior is to be expected.

“People, when they’re meeting with outreach workers and psychiatric outreach workers on the street—they can bring it together pretty well and not seem threatening when they’re in the presence of outreach workers,” he said.

Residents concerned about Susan or other neighborhood homeless people can respond in a few ways. Residents concerned Susan’s cough may be a sign of tuberculosis can contact the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene; the law allows people to be picked up for public health safety concerns, according to a source who wished to remain anonymous.

The Manhattan Outreach Consortium seriously considers community concerns, Edwards said, and residents can call 311 and request a homeless outreach team to come to a specific location. Team representatives will arrive immediately, Edwards added, though the person of concern must be at that location when the teams get there. The teams conduct basic psychosocial assessments of each case, determine if they need to be seen by a psychologist and work to connect them to transitional and permanent housing.

But community concerns alone won’t be enough to get Susan help, Gupta said. Locals can begin by talking to Susan and encouraging her to seek help, she added.
“I think that people can try to engage her in conversation and try to talk with her about whether she would be willing to go into a shelter,” Gupta said. “They can try to get a sense of what’s going on with her. If she says things of a level of concern, it would be helpful for them to call for help from the police.”

Henkin, though, is still looking for concrete answers.

”I understand the issues, but I also understand that I have to walk on the sidewalk and not be assaulted by somebody,” she said. “I don’t want anyone spitting on me and coughing. I think people in this community are entitled to an answer.”

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  • Concerned Resident

    “They can’t make an arrest if they don’t observe the person doing something illegal.” Here you go, take a look at this youtube video of her and her boyfriend who pulls a knife on a passanger on the subway; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjl2_T_UC7k

  • UES Resident

    She broke into my old apartment building on 78th multiple times, totally stripping the lock so that residents could not use their keys to get in, and even if she may not be a violent threat, the guy with her who she calls her son carries a knife, has given me the middle finger for no reason, and frequently kicks cars and tells at passing traffic.

  • acm

    I can hear her 21 floors up. She scares my 4 year old and I on the street, and she spits on people all the time. I have heard her since February and called the 19 precinct and a friend has called 311. They will do nothing about it.

  • UES Tax Payer

    “Susan” confronted me on the street with my dog. She was screaming, hacking and spitting and the dog became alarmed and excited, so I had the dog sit down near the curb, out of her way until she passed – if only! She got in my face, proceeded to tell me that I stopped the dog on purpose, and told me that God’s eye was watching me. She then told me to “get out” and proceeded to take aim and spit on both myself and on my dog. She had excellent aim for both instances so I am certain it was not an “accident” or she “couldn’t help it.” This is a health and sanitation concern in addition to merely a quality of life issue. I used to be one who “felt bad” for her, as I assumed she had Tourrettes or something similar – however there is no pity left for this woman and I will now be raising my voice to the community liaison at the NYPD as well as calling 311 when I see her.

  • UpperEaster

    This woman is a menace. I live on 83rd street, and see her every morning while walking my dog, who she spits at every time. Lately, I see her coming and just bolt into the street, with seconds to spare before I get hit with one of her famous lougies. It’s disgusting, and I have extreme anxiety walking around my neighborhood. It really isn’t fair. She is terrorizing everybody who crosses her path. I googled “spitting woman UES,” because I was having a hard time trying to explain this nut job to everyone. I’m very pleased to see that this is an issue of concern to fellow residents.

  • UES

    “I think that people can try to engage her in conversation and try to talk with her about whether she would be willing to go into a shelter,” Gupta said. “They can try to get a sense of what’s going on with her. If she says things of a level of concern, it would be helpful for them to call for help from the police.”

    I sincerely hope that the above is taken out of context. To suggest that residents with absolutely no training or knowledge base engage in difficult conversation/outreach with someone whose behaviour is both unpredictable and dangerous is grossly irresponsible. Advising residents to contact police if this women says things of concern (after approaching her to strike up a conversation) is laughable. What happens when she (or the son/nephew) doesn’t SAY something concerning, but DOES something violent? It takes mere seconds for a violent act to occur, but it will take minutes for police to arrive on the scene. Ms Gupta’s advice only really makes sense if the intent is to bait “Susan” into violence to justify her arrest/institutionalization. The reality is that citizens are not social workers, nor are they fodder.

    I was recently ambushed and spat on by this woman. I yelled at her and she walked away screaming while the male she travels with looked on menacingly (good to know he’s armed!). Perhaps at this point, I should have tried to engage “Susan” in a discussion about homeless shelters or why she chose to spit on me. Unfortunately, I was preoccupied with wiping the saliva from my hand and trying to mitigate my risk of infectious disease.

    Its only a matter of time before this situation escalates. When it does, a lot of organizations who had the authority and capacity to act will have much to explain. In the meantime, I will be involved in well advised community efforts to rectify this problem.

    • acm

      what are we all going to do about this???

      • acm

        i have contacted assembly member dan quart’s office– please contact local politicians

  • Concerned Upper Eastsider

    She is now daily between 82nd and 83rd on Third Avenue. I called the police this afternoon after another encounter with her. She spit at my six year this morning. Walking to school with my three children should not be filled with fear of running into her. What can we do as concerned citizens?

    • cfamigl1

      I walked by the Coffee Bean Wednesday morning with my dog, and she began her little screaming tirade. When I came back down for work a few minutes later, I was told by neighbors that she had just been hauled off by 3 squad cars and an ambulance, cans and all! Of course, she was back by 5 p.m. in the same spot. I was told that she got away with “a second warning,” and one more she will be institutionalized. I guess we shall see.

  • cues

    I just had the cops at my apartment to file a report because she spit at me today. they said that wouldn’t do much and the best thing to do is call 911 right away when she does it again. so, if enough of us call the police when it happens, this will get taken care of.

  • resident

    she spat on me last night while i was on my cell phone with my mother. then i saw her make her way into an apartment building on third ave. I’ve seen her chase people down on a crowded subway platform at 68th street/hunter college before. she’s a monster.

  • Arunziwaffle

    I hear her screaming every day, I live on 84th street. She’s the rooster who wakes me up.

  • Arunziwaffle

    I hear her screaming every day, I live on 84th street. She’s the rooster who wakes me up.

  • Tired UESer

    This awful creature literally wakes me up every morning with blood curdling screams (now 3 days in a row). The first time I heard it I nearly called the police because I thought someone was being murdered. I’ve never heard anything like it. She’s attempted to spit on me a few times, though I usually cross the street when I see her hacking up at people. Somebody get her the help she needs, institutionalize her, and/or take her off the street.

  • BH

    I live on 84th street, between 2nd and 3rd avenue. She is literally screaming and spitting on the street right now (12/7/12 at 5pm). She was screaming last night around midnight too. I’ve observed her a bit. It appears that one of the reasons she begins screaming is due to an uncontrollable sneezing fit she has. It bothers her so much that she starts screaming in frustration and/or to stop the sneezing. I sometimes wake up in the morning because she is screaming so loud.

  • UpperEaster

    Last night she chased me down third ave when I was on my way home from work. Right before she came after me, she turned to a little boy, leaned down and said “I’ll come back for you later,” then proceeded to basically run me into traffic while hacking and spitting at me. This woman is becoming a villain. I honestly cannot take it anymore. Something needs to be done. Any ideas? I’ve tried calling the cops to no avail.

  • Joe F. (82nd street resident)

    You are all very insensitive. She cleary has turrets. Try getting her some help before just calling the police. Also, what do you think the police will even do? At most they may take her into the station, then what? Release her. Stop being an up tight stereotype on the UES and start being a human being. I’m appalled at this article even being published the way it has been.

    • UpperEaster

      Are you insane? Has she spit on you? Your child? Your dog? She clearly shows intent. She turned bent down to a small boy, after spitting on him, the other day and told him she “would be back for him later.” She does not have turrets. She can control where she spits. But she chooses to spit on people. Next your’e going to tell me that the rapist at Riverside Park was schizophrenic, so we should have a little more compassion for him. Sorry, but when I have someone spitting at me every single day and chasing me down the street, I don’t quite feel like a human being. Maybe you should go up to her and see if you could do anything to help. Let’s see what happens when she hacks a big one right in your face.

    • Also and 82nd St. resident

      Joe F., next time you see her, try and get her some help, ok? I think spitting at kids and innocent people is being “insensitive”. And as far as “tight UES stereotype,” I also think that people in the Bronx or Harlem would have the same opinions about her.

  • Frequent NYC Visitor

    I was stunned when a local Upper East Side friend brought this article to my attention! I am a Michigan resident and visit NYC just about every 3 to 4 months. When I visited in July, my friend and I encountered this EXACT woman outside a local cafe in the area. Upon exiting the restaurant “Susan” hissed and spat at both of us. Having no idea what was happening I stood there while my friend darted across the street to avoid being within spit-reach. Quickly I followed, barely being missed by a passing car. Is this not an act of endangering someone? I would say that she definitely poses a threat to those around her and I only ran into her ONCE!

  • http://twitter.com/shesamazingnyc Shes Amazing

    I’ve seen Susan in the CVS on Lexington and 84th before. I think they let her use the bathroom there. She can speak very normally when she wants to. When I saw her, she was behaving rationally and politely, and speaking Spanish to the CVS employee.

    Our doorman said she has been polite to him, and that her screaming is part of her religion. (??) Apparently it is to drive away the demons, and the spitting is to get the evil out of her body. I was commiserating with another resident of our building and he said she is misunderstood.

    With all due respect, I think she’s a menace. Spitting is assault. If someone spit at a police officer, would they not be arrested for assault?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Suzannah-Troy/1620911138 Suzannah Troy

    http://youtu.be/9DqKsZfHfL4 I tried not to point the camera at her and I am smiling but truly it was disturbing and scary.

    http://youtu.be/dh9TedhfthE Dr. Fagelman’s receptionist makes “Susan” look tame and Dr. Fagelman did not fire Delita Hooks so therefore he financed unprofessional behavior and really sick assault.
    FYI — I was verbally assaulted, menaced at Dr. Fagelman’s medial offices by his receptionist office manager Delita Hooks who came out from behind a long closed off counter to harass me and than violently give me the finger as I exited. I had asked would you consider paper cups instead of styrofoam it is better for the environment. I decided to turn on my video and ask her to please give me the finger again since she was so pleased with herself and than she violently assaulted me — you can see her remove her shoes and runs at me — I backed away giving her greater velocity to damage my eye – a hole in my retina — than she grabbed my hair and when I defended myself bringing her to the floor she would not let go of my hair further damaging my 50 year old neck and than tried to kick me in the groin. Delita Hooks filed a cross false complaint against me which is yet another serious crime but the NYPD at 01 Precicnt det squad are corrupt in my opinion.

    Maybe “Susan” can get a job working for Dr. Fagelman. All the women in the video medical care professionals? I was told lied to the NYPD perhaps not knowing I had the video?

    I am 50, I went to get a cyst removed and biopsies on my arm 2 painful injections in my arm, I never put down my bags one very heavy and my iphone as I was hit like a human pinatta.

    I left with a hole in my retina, blood in my eye and around, hair ripped out of my hair, earring ripped out of my ear and no arrest, not fired.

  • Batshit Crazy Spit Lady

    This woman is a menace. Spitting on someone’s child is assault. She spits on me or mine and she’s getting her homeless head knocked off.

  • j cauchi

    found them both in our lobby one morning sitting in a corner charging cell phones husband asked them to leave immediately the man cursed us out so badly and threatened to rape me and i was 6 months pregnant we called the cops and they were gone but they are still around here its scary i occasionally see her at cvs on lex 87th str and i leave the store

  • Elizabeth

    This is so ridiculous… I called 311 this morning because she scared my child and others at their bus stop on 87th street. I got put through to three different departments and none of them were particularly helpful. I just heard her screaming again, about 6:15 pm. Does anyone have any suggestions? The 19th precinct should do something. She is a menace!!

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