Sister Act

In Sue Kramer’s first feature, Gray Matters, Heather Graham plays Gray Baldwin, a successful ad executive who happily shares a loft and a lot of her free time with her brother (Thomas Cavanagh)—until they fall in love with the same woman.

“For your first feature, you want to write something very personal, and this movie is very personal to me. I wrote it to honor my sister, who felt there’d never been a film depicting a gay girl character or lesbian in a very positive light—showing that she was clever and intelligent and funny and attractive,” explains Kramer. “In Hollywood history since the 1930s, there’ve been iconic gay guy characters, but lesbians haven’t been portrayed very positively—or much at all for that matter. I wanted to make a movie that my sister would be proud of, that she could go to with our parents, her friends and their children, our grandparents and have them be entertained and learn something at the same time.

Merin: How did the story evolve? Kramer: The seed for the idea came a long time ago, when my sister had crushes on some of my friends in college, and I realized that we liked the same things, so why not the same people. I thought, Wow, that’s a great idea for a movie.

My sister Carolyn had a friend, Gray Baldwin—who’s not gay but had such a great name for a person who’s not black or white; who’s struggling to be herself and struggling with her sexuality. The name Gray made perfect sense and was there even before I started writing the screenplay. It was always entitled Gray Matters. Gray was my lead character, and I put the notion of “gray” into everything she did.

You’ve said you enjoy writing dialog. Are you in the characters’ heads when you write it? I definitely become the characters. This is all so personal. There’s so many different aspects of my personality in these characters in different ways. Carrie [Molly Shannon] is defiantly my alter ego: I’m always looking at women’s magazines; always questioning why they say to boost your buttocks and have breast reductions; and I’m so annoyed by the way society makes women look at themselves. I have a two-year-old daughter, and I just don’t want her to grow up looking at models as though they’re the way you have to look and be. Like Molly, I love Oprah: I’m completely obsessed with her and would probably surrogate a child for her if she asked me. So, Molly is me speaking in many ways. Gray’s a combination of me and my sister.

Did you write parts for Alan Cummings as a taxi driver and Sissy Spacek as a psychotherapist specifically? Yes, I know Alan, and he’s such a sprite. I wanted to give him the opportunity to play a role more like himself—because he’s constantly playing superheroes—and wanted to hear his true Scottish accent. And I knew Sissy, too, and wanted to give her something she’d never done before. I read an article about a New York therapist who walks patients on the West Side Highway for their sessions. I thought that’s hilarious, and took it to the next level—Chelsea piers. Sissy’s very athletic, so I wanted to give her something to show that off. She did her own stunts …

Even falling off the rock-climbing wall? Yes, that’s her! We had a stunt woman, but Sissy wanted to do it. And we didn’t’ fake that with an extreme camera angle. It’s real. Sissy did it. So did Heather.

Heather’s great! And wonderful in your film. It’s sort of a coming out for her ... Yes, it’s true—in terms of her coming out as an actress. Drugstore Cowboy was her ingénue moment, and you knew this girl deserves major attention. And Boogie Nights, too. But she’s played some roles that made people lose confidence in her range.

Did you see many other actresses? Yes, many—some with much bigger names. But when I met Heather, there was really no looking further. I had no problems casting this movie, but it was a seven year struggle to get financing.

Even with Sissy and Alan on board? They were huge calling cards. Especially for casting, because actors want to work with them. This is an ensemble movie—even though it’s Heather’s—and putting the cast together was like solving a big puzzle. We’d gotten it completely cast, but the financer pulled out.

What happened? Did he get scared? Of the subject matter. When we got financing again, our cast wasn’t available. So we started from scratch again.

Then, what finally got you financed? Have things changed? I think so. There’s more awareness of gay rights and the gay community and, although I’m a straight girl myself, I definitely consider myself part of the community. It’s now more a part of pop culture. There’s a long way to go, but there’s more in consciousness. Before it was about “those people” who have nothing to do with me. Now, you don’t have that choice—whether you’re for or against gay marriage, you have to know about it.